In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. Rolling The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. It isnt the first C&B Revolver Ive bought, but the first one belongs to my son and he has it. Estimated Price: $400 - $600. I dont use grease on the cylinder. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. This version features improved accuracy. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. Had a cowboy smith smooth the internals so they dont chew each other up.ook mighty sweet in a pair of El Paso Saddlery crossdraw Slim Jims. The instruction manual back then did not give any information on proper cleaning. When it did fire on time I could hit a coke can at 25 yards most of the time. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. (not by much) sInce they use the .44 barrel boared for .22s, the strength is well past ridiculous, even for the .22 Magnum. Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS FRECKLING ALONG WITH LIGHT MUZZLE WEAR. The open top revolver needed some work. Retail $300. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Thanks for the advice, very much appreciated. I have a Pietta target model I like to take with me backpacking. I think if I was to get a cap and ball revolver I would look for one of the stainless steel Rugers. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. Regular gun solvents cant remove the black powder salts. Remington. Serves the same purpose as putting lube over the ball as described in the article, but with less mess, and assists in proper compression with lighter loads. The other great thing about the cap-and-ball revolvers is that they are not considered firearms, so you can buy all you want and have them shipped to your door. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. Personally, I use wonder wads, commercially available round pieces of felt soaked in oil and wax (or you can make your own), between the ball and the powder. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. Have fun. Gauge: 44 percussion. The one thing I really like is that the entire process of loading is actually fun, whereas for my M&P45 loading a mag isnt something to get excited about. Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. Great review. Very cool stuff. It is considered a part and can be ordered through the mail. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. . BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH SHARP RIFLING. Remington. .44 Cal percussion. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. If the shooter was a little rough with the gun, and dropped the hammer into the Half Cock Notch, the tip of the trigger could break off, radically altering the sight picture. He took the gun back. Bore and stock in very good condition, rear sight is missing and front sight is loose. Retail $300. The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. After that, the law is quite simple, though apparently foolish. First load powder, then press ball. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. The patent date is 1858. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Sorry for misleading anyone. Lightning Manual. I had a Peacekeeper ASM and also a Longhorn in .45, never had trouble with them but I didn't have them very long, I sold them and bought my first Colt! I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. - 2) a few of the triggergaurd and backstrap screw heads have flaked a bitcosmetic only so far. On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. I am sure it will do for deer. FEMALE PEOPLE, Riding into the sunset in a living room near you, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, Bayou Bounty Hunters, Deadwood Marshals, Border Vigilantes, Damascus Wildlife Rangers, Thurmont Rangers, Westshore Posse, Monocacy Illregulars, Potomac Rangers, Cedar Valley Vigilantes, Granite City Gunslingers, Chorro Valley Regulators, Home of The John Wayne Shoot-Out now The SASS Western Regional, The ORIGINAL Pozo River Vigilance Committee, Tejas Caballeros, Texican Rangers, Green Mountain Regulators, Plum Creek Shooting Society, Chorro Valley Regulators, Pozo River Vigilence Committee, piru hole in wall, deadwood boys and ojai desperados, Firelands Peacemakers,Tusco Long Riders, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Sandusky Regulators, Brown Twp. If a conversion cylinder (to shoot black powder cowboy loads) Looks a lot like the Ruger. Also on the note of black powder, someone with a lesser felony conviction can own a black powder gun as long as the magazine cannot be altered to fire High power center fire ammunition (45-70 and .45 colt cowboy rounds do not apply). 1885 High Wall Manual. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. 20?) The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. 36 BP; excellent bore, excellent stock, 9.5'' barrel, Manufactured in Italy. In between, he was granted US Patent No. I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. The Remington on the other hand, was very WELL DESIGNED, and was considered to be one of the strongest Percussion Revolvers ever made, It also had a very superior Sighting System, with the rear sight a notch in the frame, and a post or blade foresight at the end of the barrell,, at the tip! He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. Action functions fine., s/n 0181xx. Bore in very good condition with surface corrosion, however the barrel is bulged slightly. Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. Great article and comments, WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. Ihave been thinking about getting one of these for a while, I have a question. It wears Pietta gripframe screws, too. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Johnnie Roper. 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored These two revolvers just feel better ergonomically than either the Uberti .357's or the USFA .38 Special revolvers I have. It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. Today you can quickly convert your own Remington 1858, without first paying off some big corporation, by merely dropping in a cartridge conversion cylinder two popular versions are the Taylors R&D and Kirst conversions. The cylinder! New in Box-never fired. Visit Our Site and Get Your Favorite Actors or Actresses Outfits now at the best prices. What are those little balls for? Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Bought both of mine mail order from Cabelas. Like this guy. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. I have no idea how many guns Ive owned since my first .22 at the age of 12 but in the most fun category I could narrow it down to two. Some shot high except a .36 Army San Marco Colt 1851 Navy. SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. The strong top-strap design, the ease of swapping cylinders and the safety notches are all reasons why so many modern cap-and-ball shooters still turn to Fordyce Beals design. Jim, you mentioned the Ruger Old Army , 44 cal. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. 1866 Rifle Manual. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. The only Armi San Marcos gun I have a repro 1858 Remington that I bought in the early 1980s and it works fine. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. See 18 U.S.C. I can put up to 60 grains into each chamber, though I usually use 40. Ive got a friend in the Hill Country who is a maniac on the topic of hunting Bambis mom. The emphasis on having antlers to hang on the wall has led to a ratio of 20 does per buck, which is not a stable gene pool. Both sets of these .38 revolvers seem just a bit smaller in the grips and frames than the ASM .45's. Perfect for display and target shooting. As I got older and learned about black powder, the Remington pre-cartridge design just intuitively looked stronger. Dear Mr. Nickel, Take that, and cross reference it the list below. I shoot them once in a while for old times' sake, and have loaned them out many times, with no problems. And you thought the New York reload was a modern invention? STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS MINISCULE HANDLING WEAR. Some were mentioning movies in which the Remington 1858 made an appearance. Powered by Invision Community. Pretty simple. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. Minor handling dings - see photos Standard 8" octagon barrel. Ive made it a long way by doing what CSMs tell me to do, so I shoot it at least once a month. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. I have owned a dozen or more 1860 Army copies. I taught my neighbors son (after he turned 18) how to shoot black powder with my 1858 and he fell in love with the revolver, so I gave him a new one for college graduation. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. Told the gunsmith I did not want a race gun, I just wanted it to work. I've never had any problems with them. The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. FOOD, Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. WOOD 36 Caliber; 75% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Uberti 1851 Navy 6 shot .36 caliber black powder revolover. Thanks. This was suggested by a good friend and serious black powder target shooter who has a couple of the 1858s. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. I've thought I might make a lamp out of it one day. Range, of course, is quite limited. They are all excellent fit and finish. SOLD Customer Service. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & I went out of my tent and I could barely see but there was a big ass bear looking at me about 20 feet away. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve, I do know however that the 74's made by the Chiappa are, having problems. 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